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Larry Shone
11-12-05, 04:26 PM
I just this second foud this young male spider on my wall upstairs.
I dont have film in my camera so had to use my camera phone with camera lens in front to get this close up.

Its about 40mm across, has a brown marked abdomen, and the palps have an upward pointing spike on each one.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Dawnrider/Nature/malespider.jpg

Guy Tansley
11-12-05, 05:52 PM
More likely to be Amaurobidiidae IMO, maybe A. similis (http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=amaurobius+similis&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images)?

Larry Shone
11-12-05, 06:10 PM
Thanks Guy! I follwed up that google image search and found this one that certainly does look like him!
http://www.gardensafari.net/pics/spinnen/amaurobius_similis_hs4_4384.jpg

And I thought the only spider to be found in the home was a Tegenaria!

Kirdec
11-12-05, 06:18 PM
it looks like a phoneutria fera to me 8)

Larry Shone
11-12-05, 06:33 PM
Ah you had me going there Kirdec,looking thru my book to find that one, nope not there!
Phoneutria is a Brazillain species!
:roll:

Kirdec
11-12-05, 06:49 PM
hehe yeah and im not sure you would like ot have phoneutria cawling on your wall, even if you love spiders A LOT :)

Uwe Neis
11-12-05, 06:59 PM
Hi!

If you're looking for some family keys of middle european spiders have a look at http://www.araneae.unibe.ch. Might help if you caught this little fella.

Regards,
Uwe

Larry Shone
11-12-05, 07:03 PM
hehe yeah and im not sure you would like ot have phoneutria cawling on your wall, even if you love spiders A LOT :)

your not kidding!
I just foud this o a page

Spastic action of the venom of the spider Phoneutria fera

Doesnt sound pleasant!

Larry Shone
11-12-05, 07:04 PM
Hi!

If you're looking for some family keys of middle european spiders have a look at http://www.araneae.unibe.ch. Might help if you caught this little fella.

Regards,
Uwe

Thanks for the link,m its going in my Favourites!
As for catching him, I dont have a pooter yet.

Richard Gallon
12-12-05, 08:38 AM
I agree with Guy - it's an adult male Amaurobius similis. It a very common house spider which produces a mesh web of bluish white silk, often on outside window sills.
Richard

Larry Shone
12-12-05, 04:51 PM
Thanks Richard.

Theres another spider in our kitchen, much smaller and I cant get a close up view of it yet-tho my other half calls him George!

He has made a web like that of a Garden Spider(Araneus) yet he's indoors!


'Classic 'spider web


http://pages.unibas.ch/dib/nlu/staff/sz/pics/araneusweb.gif

Richard Gallon
12-12-05, 05:19 PM
Hi Larry,
That one will almost certainly be Zygiella x-notata. One of the few orb-weavers which is active in winter, and common on buildings. Does the web have a sector missing (i.e. always looks unfinnished with missing 'spokes')?
Richard

Larry Shone
13-12-05, 03:38 PM
Thanks Richard.
Not sure about the web as it was hard to see where it was placed, plus I had to disturb it to get a closer look.
I noticed its abdomen had markings on it similar to that of an Araneus.

(Ignore the white blob in this poor pic, thats some dust)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Dawnrider/Nature/unknownspider.jpg

I so need a decent digi camera!

Larry Shone
13-12-05, 03:45 PM
I believe this little fellow is one of its babies, yet I thought the adult was male!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Dawnrider/Nature/unknownspiderling.jpg

And you know, having googled Zygiella x-notata, I have to say it does look like that!