First mating successful (maybe)

[Neil Richardson]

We mated P.Murinus this evening. Male was drumming and stroking the female for about 45minutes until she came out of her burrow fully. He got at least one, and possibly two insertions.

She did chase him around the tank for a bit after that, but luckily sarah was there to seperate them before anyone got hurt.


Anyone have an incubation time for this species?

[sarah Smith]

Crosses fingers we get a viaable egg sac and trhen my nightmares begin As I will end up being the one looking after any resulting offspring. Anyone got any tips for me on how to house them, feed them etc without lossing them and or getting bitten? a safe methorod for seperating them would also be useful. Right now I am planing on taking the sac from mum at the end of week five and placing them into a escape proof hatching container. I am guessing they will be at nymph 2 stage by then and wont need as much care with turning, though I guess they will still need heat and so on. Any end of incubation help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

[Graeme Wright]

Crosses fingers we get a viaable egg sac and trhen my nightmares begin As I will end up being the one looking after any resulting offspring. Anyone got any tips for me on how to house them, feed them etc without lossing them and or getting bitten? a safe methorod for seperating them would also be useful. Right now I am planing on taking the sac from mum at the end of week five and placing them into a escape proof hatching container. I am guessing they will be at nymph 2 stage by then and wont need as much care with turning, though I guess they will still need heat and so on. Any end of incubation help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

I kept them all togther in one box for ages. Letteing them eat each other for a bit imo may be a good thing. It tins down there numbers and also weeds out any runts

[ornithoctonus]

Hi

Hi neil I aggre with what G.wright says. Just keep them in the box togther for a while and let the stronger ones pick out the week ones. Its better that way becouse if you keep any of the babys and grow them up and want to breed them again you want to have strong spiders. So you there for have a much better chance of success the next time round. And as for getting bitten I wouldnt worry about that for a while becouse there going to be to small to get penetrate the skin. As they get bigger just do what you do with your spiders now and just be careful not to get bitten any way hope this turns out well for you and keep updated on what happens thanks james.

[sarah Smith]

Sounds good so when should I seperate them? should I wait till they are about 1 inch leg span or will we lose to many? Also when do I seperate the sac into half for the 50/50 split?

[ornithoctonus]

Hi

Hi there sarah.s If you leve them that long till there one inch I think you my end up with none. I would seperate them just before there third insert. As well as that when you seperate for the 50/50 split I,d leve them together until you have to send them or if you have them still when there 3 insert seperate them in to pilm tubs singulary or any other tubs the right size and then count out the ones that you are keeping and the ones you are sending. If you need any more imfo on sending them just get back to me on here thanks james

[Neil Richardson]

How long is it normally until she makes the sac?? And then do we stop feeding her all together until they hatch?

[ornithoctonus]

Hi

Hi sarah I'm not to sure how long it takes with pterinochilus murinus before she makes her sac but after she has been mated it sould be any were from 4/6 weeks with this sp. My be G.wright nows I think he has bred this sp. before. The thing is I've bred 5 sp. and all of them have had diffrent times to when they make there egg sacs. But it should be around 4/6. As with feeding her I tend not to feed any of my tarantulas when they are looking after the egg sac becouse this can stress them to much. Which then leads them to eat there egg sac wich none of use want. But you should be fine pterinochilus murinus is ment to be one of the easyer ones to breed but that dose not mean its a walk in the park. Any one who breeds any tarantula should be proud of them selfs. It is by no means an easy thing to do so good luke to you and dont feell down if she eats the egg sac this happens all the time even with the best breeders but if she dose feed her up as much as you can becouse pterinochilus murinus often dubble cluch meaning she will lay another eggs sac. Thanks james :P

[Layla McInnes]

We havent bred this species(nor do we intend to lol) but we find it easier as slings hatch out to pot them up from incubator.

[Phil Messenger]

How long is it normally until she makes the sac?? And then do we stop feeding her all together until they hatch?

Possibly more than was requested, just copied this from a piece i had already written.

At the temperature of my spider room (80 to 85F) Pterinochilus eggsacs
are typically produced between 4 and 8 weeks, occassionally longer, the
eggs can develop from egg to nymph 1 (eggs with legs) in between ten
and fourteen days, moulting into nymph 2 at between eighteen and twenty
two days, finally moulting into spiderlings at between thirty and thirty five
days. The average spiderling count from an eggsac is variable, again
depending on feeding and more importantly the size of the female, given
that Pterinochilus are sexually mature long before they are fully grown, I
have observed eggsacs from specimens little over 2.5 inch legspan of
P.chordatus & P.murinus, sac contents usually average between 50 and
150, sometimes more from larger well fed females if you can get the
large (4 inch + legspan) females to produce eggsacs, in my experience
smaller younger females appear more fertile than the older larger
specimens, as an example I will use a specimen with a 3 inch legspan,
that would typically produce around 80 to 140 spiderlings from a first
eggsac. Pterinochilus can and often do produce two or three eggsacs from
a single mating, quite often the second eggsac can rival the first eggsac
for quantity of spiderlings, on the occasions where a third eggsac is
produced, this is usually very small containing an average of between six
and thirty eggs, Noting that breeding data will vary from keeper to keeper
according to feeding habits and temperatures etc. spiderlings are around 8
to 10mm legspan and are quick growing, males can be mature as quick as
one year, but more typically 18 months to two years with the female being
or almost being sexually mature in the same time scale, again growth
rates will vary according to feeding habits & temperature etc. I do not feed whilst they are with the eggsac.

[Adam Smith]

*Possibly more than was requested, just copied this from a piece i had already written.*

Thats is a good bit of information for anyone who has and wants to breed this species. Definitely some lines ill take and remember for future preference. [/quote]