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    I have been watching the forums with interest over the last few weeks and would like to offer a suggestion. It appears at first glance that everything relating to the site, whilst promoting good Tarantula husbandry, and while intentional or not – is inherently biased towards experienced keepers.

    Whilst I appreciate my following suggestion is going to add a work load to Mark Pennell and the rest of the BTS crew – the outcome could help spread the knowledge of Tarantula husbandry to a wider audience. I make no apology in my belief that a small minority BTS members seem to think that the right to own a Tarantula is an exclusive privilege. The forum feedback referring to the act of buy a Tarantula on ebay and the lack of knowledge required to simply acquire a spider, made me realise that despite even my own best intentions and provision of information is still lacking. We have an opportunity to do more to spread the word and also my own personal mission; to bring the world of the arachnid to the masses and not just the perceived elite few. By looking at a wider picture, if the BTS could implement just some of my ideas then the culminate knowledge of the entire membership could proactively drive the methodology of the BTS to everyone who had an interest in starting in our wonderful hobby.

    There appears to be a lack of “How To” information for new or prospective keepers, unless of course you post a question in a forum. The recent discussions in relation to DWA species is a prime example. There are a lot of people out there who wouldn’t necessarily understand what a DWA license is – or is for. There are also a number of forums posted asking some really basic keeping questions. Whilst I think it is fantastic that new keepers ask these “basic” questions, in many cases it is very basic rudimentary knowledge that is readily available if you go looking for it. There are a number of very good knowledge base web sites available that in terms of keeping Tarantulas make the BTS site look quite poor – many of these sites are operated by BTS members.

    In the BTS site – could we not have a section devoted to those thinking of buying their first Tarantula. With maybe subsections divided into the categories questions such as but not limited to,

    • Thinking of buying a Tarantula
    o Reasons for doing so.
    o Reasons for not doing so.
    o Preconceived misconceptions – Can spiders kill you etc??

    • What species should I buy?
    o What species is for the beginner?
    o What should I avoid?
    o What is the difference between arboreal and terrestrial?
    o Should I buy and adult or a sling?
    o What defences do Tarantulas have?
    o Where can I buy my Tarantula?
    o Petshop or approved dealer?

    • How should I keep my Spider Housed?
    o Tanks and Vivariums
    o Heating
    o Lighting
    o Humidity
    o Substrates
    o Furnishings

    • What should I feed my chosen Tarantula?
    • How often should I feed it?
    • Should I handle it?
    • Will I need other equipment?

    I am sure you get the picture with what I am suggesting. Perhaps also you could add links to potential BTS approved suppliers. Suppliers who have met approved BTS standards for husbandry, quality of service and knowledge.

    I have seen the knowledge section in the questions matrix and whilst they are good, they are all aimed at people who have already acquired their spiders. What I am suggesting is aiming information at people who have little or no knowledge and are turning to the BTS for advice, without having the commitment of owning a Tarantula. The society caters for the keeper – but it is lacking for the prospective.

    I would be interested in what other people think to my idea?
    Everyones an Expert! "Ex" is a has been - "spurt" is a strong gush of water! You decide............................

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    There is a FAQ and QandA on tarantulas on the BTS website, I think its on the members section, cant remember where but there is somewhere on the site a basic question and answers on Ts and keeping them based on a level one start from scratch knowledge on the subject if the person is new to Ts altogether. I started learning through many books as a teenager as I didnt have internet or what internet was available then compared to now is very different, I was 17 when first learned about ts im 25 now so theres a lot changed. More books published and hundreds if not thousands more sites on the internet on the web than when I first started on the internet. The first 2 and best sites at the time were BTS and arachnopets.com which has evolved so much over the years. But there is a basic QandA on ts on this site somewehere.

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    • #3
      Adam
      Yes you are quite right and it’s on the main site now, although it was on the member’s area in the beginning I move it a few weeks back. This was announced on the home page. I am sure no one reads this

      Announcement: 27/09/2006
      All the questions you ever wanted to ask about keeping tarantulas when your a beginner, are answered here in the Questions Matrix. This resource and been moved into the main site by popular demand.


      JM Glegg
      I fully appreciate what your saying and indeed the information you speak of and request is on this site and has been for a very long time, perhaps its just not clearly presented very well. So I will address this and make it easier to find. I am currently re-designing the BTS site so I shall certainly take these comments on board.

      In short term I will add a new section to the navibar, to highlight this information more clearly.

      This information currently resides under RESOURCES
      Questions Matrix

      Also worth looking at for beginners: Under articles
      SO YOU WANT TO KEEP TARANTULAS

      Keeping Tarantulas - The Basics

      "I have been watching the forums with interest over the last few weeks and would like to offer a suggestion. It appears at first glance that everything relating to the site, whilst promoting good Tarantula husbandry, and while intentional or not – is inherently biased towards experienced keepers."

      I personally spend a great deal of time helping beginners and answering questions from beginners and potential new keepers on a daily basis, something I am and all of the committee are happy to do this is what the BTS is all about. I spend a great deal of time answering such questions by email, phone and also today at the AES Kempton...

      It is not intentional we are not inherently bias to the experienced but yes we cater for these too, but I guess it can come across as such or I guess you would not have brought it up.

      I will act upon any suggestion about this site to my fullest and I welcome these suggestions, either by email, phone or on a post on this forum.

      Best regards
      Mark

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      • #4
        OK
        I have hopefully now made all the beginners info easier to find, it can be easily accessed under the navibar:

        BEGINNERS GUIDES:
        Ask a question on the BTS forum
        Ask a question by email
        Beginners Questions Matrix
        So you want to keep a Tarantula
        Keeping Tarantulas- The Basics


        I am pretty sure this covers everything JMG was asking for. I will check through this in the morning, it’s been a long old day, one I started at 5.30 am this morning.

        Please keep the suggestions coming I am very happy to receive these and as you can see will try to add, or correct and change, pretty much everything as soon as humanly possible, this one was pretty quick as all the necessary pages existed allready. Might not be so quick if pages, scripts etc have to written and published.

        Regards
        Mark

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        • #5
          Nice one Mark. I would add that on Saturday Mark spent all day on the BTS Stand at the AES ( except when he was in the bar) and when he got home , very late, still made the changes as requested. Dedication beyond the call of duty I think. I do agree with yur comments and we are adressing them.
          We have a couple of members currently writing new keepers guides for the Journal and site and a couple of scorpion articles on the way.

          Ray
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          • #6
            New Keepers

            I see the problem now. If you enter the web site through the Non-Java enterance (as I tend to) you are taken to a different frameset that doesn't have the new keeper information. If you enter the main Java enabled site then the information is there.

            It's not a case of the information not being there, it's a case of a different set of options dependent on which door way you use.

            Still having read the new keeper information, it does need still work and I know the hard working BTS team will get there with it.

            Thanks for all the responses.

            Jay
            Everyones an Expert! "Ex" is a has been - "spurt" is a strong gush of water! You decide............................

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            • #7
              Re: New Keepers

              I see the problem now. If you enter the web site through the Non-Java entrance (as I tend to) you are taken to a different frameset that doesn't have the new keeper information. If you enter the main Java enabled site then the information is there.
              Fixed! - An oversight by myself I tend to forget that there are those who might not have java installed on their PC and use this way in The new site will have only one way in!

              It's not a case of the information not being there, it's a case of a different set of options dependent on which door way you use.
              Well, yes and no, the info was there as I clearly stated in my first reply, it was under the articles section and not perhaps easy to find but never the less accessible from both ways in.

              Still having read the new keeper information, it does need still work and I know the hard working BTS team will get there with it.
              Yes we are working on it, like I said I am re building the site from the bottom up. Shifting all the pages into a non frames orientated site is time consuming and a great deal of work. Some of the info here has been online since the very early days of the BTS site and is in need of seriously updating.

              Also I am trying to make navigation as idiot proof as possible, as in – I am fully understand that not everyone is net aware and it should be made as easy to navigate as possible, however this is not easy, case in point I had a email saying "I have found the home page how to I get into the main site!" - nuff said

              Thanks for all the responses. Jay
              Jay, unless I get the occasional kick up the A**** now and then. I tend to spend all my time clearing 20-30 porn, watches, viagra and other spammer’s registration from the BTS forum and answering emails and working on other important projects like the new online BTS store. The removal of spam alone is currently taking up to few hours a day. I see this as worth while, as the BTS forum remains free of links to offense subject matter.

              OK here is a list of things I am currently working on;

              The BTS Online store:
              Need to add more products and refine the design and layout. However the store works and is 100% better that the old one.

              The BTS main site:
              Move this to non frames to single page system.
              Update the Theraphosidae gallery section.
              Remove the submissions gallery in favour of an upload your own picture gallery (currently online and working and being tested now!) but unsure if I will release this due to yet more areas where spammers can ruin my day.
              Add more articles from the annuals of the BTS Journal
              Update, polish and add more to the beginner’s guides
              Remove the java navigation in favour of CSS based or Fireworks html menu.

              The BTS Members site:
              Remove this in favour of a member access download section only.

              The BTS Chat:
              The search for a stable, reliable and cross browser script goes on - a fruitless task!

              The BTS forum:
              Due to be updated to a professional script – got to, as PHPBB, although has served us well has too many enemies and access to the source code makes it an easy spammer target and create self registration bots.

              The BTS Classified section:
              Due to be removed in favour of a better version of the current Bulletin Board. - Testing this at the moment.

              And many more other tweaks and enhancements.

              So hopefully in the not to distant future the membership will have an even better site to be proud off.

              I welcome submissions of articles and any other relevant information from members and non members alike. Jay you are welcome to submit beginners guides and any other helpfull hints you might want to see online.

              Best regards
              Mark

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                Originally posted by Mark Pennell View Post
                The BTS forum:
                Due to be updated to a professional script – got to, as PHPBB, although has served us well has too many enemies and access to the source code makes it an easy spammer target and create self registration bots.

                completed! 14/10/06

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