Aphonopelma or Brachypelma???

[Richard Groves]

Hello! It's been a while since I was last here as I had to sell most of my collection due to moving house, but now i'm settled I officially got back into the hobby today!

Amongst some of the spiders I bought was Aphonopelma bicolouratum


Thing is, A. bicolouratum and Brachypelma boehmei are very similar in appearance, does anyone know what the distinguishing features are between these two species? My quest to have accurate labels strikes again!

[Colin D Wilson]

This won't help one bit and sorry for a useless post , but i'd buy that no matter what species it was !!

What a nice spider

[Mark Lynes]

Whilst I'm not convinced that bicoloratum is an Aphonopela it surely isn't a Brachy; true [ hobby] boehmi looks nothing like it.

Am I alone in thinking that half the Brachys are actually Aphonopelmas or similar ? Stuart ??

Mark.

[Marko Sajovic]

Well, to me it looks just like mine bicoloratum and less like my friends boehmei

http://www.thebts.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=308

[Mark Pennell]

Hello! It's been a while since I was last here as I had to sell most of my collection due to moving house, but now i'm settled I officially got back into the hobby today!

Amongst some of the spiders I bought was Aphonopelma bicolouratum


Thing is, A. bicolouratum and Brachypelma boehmei are very similar in appearance, does anyone know what the distinguishing features are between these two species? My quest to have accurate labels strikes again!

Hi

Looks like B, boehmei to me, carapace is not the right shape and there strong flame markings on patella, these are not present on A,bicoloratum

Cheers
Mark

[Richard Groves]

Hi Mark, It was the carapace that made me have second thoughts as to the identity of my spider.

I took some close up pictures of the potella and carapace, hope they are of some help!

Carapace:


Patella:




I must admit, I was always under the impresiion that Aphonopelma are generally quite highly strung? I know it can vary with individual specimens and you certainly cannot use it to ID a spider, but mine is quite docile. It kicks like mad but has not once raised its legs at me!

[Mark Pennell]

B,boehmei

Cheers
Mark

[Daniel Carpenter]

Nice CU pictures there you must have quite gd camera.
Dan.

[Mike Conabeer]

B,boehmei

Cheers
Mark

100% with you there Mark, the leg build is lso different with A.bicoloratum, when you get to compare the 2 it is pretty obvious, one day I'll learn how to sort my pics out so that I can post on here!

[Mikhail F. Bagaturov]

Hello Richard!

Look the spider and try to realise does the femur III is a bit looking incrassated comparing to the others?
Looking so in the pic to add more for the Brachypelma.
It is in fact only the red shade is close to the same of A. bicoloratum. In all other the spider is looking like ordinary B. boehmei indeed and than the femur III should be incrassate (but not so strong as in Megaphobema spp.).

[Richard Groves]

Well, my pretty little lady has got herself a new coat!

I think there is now no question that she is a Brachypelma



What a transformation!

[Robert Farmer]

That's what I'll be looking at in about 1yrs time!

Beautifal T

[Howard Farley (Huk7)]

Yep definitely B.bohemei and a stunning one at that.

Regardless of Brachy or Aphonopelma, you have got a good'un

[John chambers]

Well, to me it looks just like mine bicoloratum and less like my friends boehmei




http://www.thebts.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=308

hi if you go to YouTube and put in A. bicolouratum your see if this is one.
to me it looks very much a.bicolouratum .
cheers.
John

[Larry Shone]

Whilst I'm not convinced that bicoloratum is an Aphonopela it surely isn't a Brachy; true [ hobby] boehmi looks nothing like it.

Am I alone in thinking that half the Brachys are actually Aphonopelmas or similar ? Stuart ??

Mark.

Funny, I did mention on another forum that brachys and Aphos look similar, and it always amazes me how the gurus seperate such genera. Another example is Poecilotheria and Psalmopoeus-theyre both arboreal and both have those chevron markings on their feet(certainly P.subfusca anyway)
And didnt Brchyplema once belong in Euathlus?