spiders names

[adam woods]

was just googling the "brazillian black and white" and it has come up with Brazilopelma colloratvillosum and Nhandu colloratvillosum. are these the same spider? if so why is the "latin name" different. wow I'm getting more confused by the second

but it is easy to confuse you tho baby lol

[mary walters]

Yes Abi, they are the same spider, it was changed from Brazilopelma to Nhandu.

[Phil Rea]

was just googling the "brazillian black and white" and it has come up with Brazilopelma colloratvillosum and Nhandu colloratvillosum. are these the same spider? if so why is the "latin name" different. wow I'm getting more confused by the second

Nhandu Lucas, 1981 is a considered a senior synonym of Brazilopelma Schmidt, 1998.

Meaning that the spider described by Schmidt in 1998 as Brazilopelma colloratvillosum actually belonged in the genus Nhandu rather than in a new genus (Brazilopelma).

Because 1981 is before 1998, (and because they are both describing the same thing), the senior genus name is Nhandu.

[Michael Jacobi]

... and use the correct terminology as Carl von Linné would have done (or should I correctly say Carl von Linnaeus, as he did, in fact, Latinise his name true to his system, if I remember correctly from Grammar School (Latin was compulsory ))

It is a misconception that Linnaeus "Latinized" his surname. He became "von Linne" later in life when he was enobled by the Swedish government, and it was this name that gave rise to terms such as "Linnean". His father, who was originally called "Nils son of Igemar", created the surname Linnaeus because it was necessary to have a less traditional (son of so-and-so) name when he went to university. His father was an amateur botanist and created the name using the Swedish word lind from the linden tree. For anyone with an interest in Carl Linnaeus, the June 2007 National Geographic has a brilliant article.

Regards, Michael

[Michael Jacobi]

was just googling the "brazillian black and white" and it has come up with Brazilopelma colloratvillosum and Nhandu colloratvillosum. are these the same spider? if so why is the "latin name" different. wow I'm getting more confused by the second

Again, with apologies for being so pedantic, it is a scientific name, not a Latin name. And this is a perfect example of the gender declination issue I covered in my Arachnoboards thread that is linked in my earlier post (#3 in this thread).

As Phil correctly pointed out the genus Nhandu is a senior synonym of the now defunct "Brazilopelma". Since the generic name "Brazilopelma" was linguistically neuter, the specific epithet had a neuter suffix; that is, -um as in "coloratovillosum". When the species correctly became part of the genus Nhandu, which is linguistically masculine, the suffix changed to the masculine -us, and the species is correctly Nhandu coloratovillosus.

Learning all this technical mumbo-jumbo should be a gradual process. Don't let it overwhelm you! There is no reason a neophyte hobbyist with one spider should be expected to take all this in from the get go. Spend more time enjoying your spider, researching the species and thinking about which species you want to be your second tarantula, and less time reading my verbose ramblings .

Best regards, Michael

[scotttaylor]

speaking as some 1 how has been in the environment scine the age of 14 and i am a forester now and hat to some time use Latin the best thing is to now suerton important Latin, i dont now yet what in T,s. u will need to now but in trees it is things like peduncle means hanging down branches in trees the rest most of the time is not needed less you order form a site that only uses Latin,
but it is handy to now a few of the names in Latin just encase you come a cross some 1 that only use Latin. but im not sergesting not to lurn it as some of it is ever a fun word or funny, just remember bowtanical means 2 word system. think first word means ford and second is the model that is how my teacher got me to lurn it lol. and if you have more than 1 of the same. ford after you right the first 1 eg Quercuss ordour the second quercuss is in lower case

[Colin D Wilson]

Michael,

Being pedantic isn't a problem, we all learn from the knowledge and accuracy of others.

Anyway, after checking through my old revision notes (sad i know, i keep everything) this is the information we were given (i was incorrect).

Carl Linné or Carl Linnaeus.
Latinised as Carolus Linnaeus (this is the created name his father used to enroll at the University of Lund).
Known as Carl von Linné after his ennoblement.

[Phil Rea]

A short biography of Carl Linnaeus can be found on the Linnean Society website here