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    I've been meaning to make this thread ever since I returned from a visit to Mary and Trevor Walters house on Sat 15 March.
    I spoke to Mary recently about the possibility of mating my female
    L. klugi with her male who was making sperm webs and raring to go. As I have no experience of breeding but like the idea of producing some CB spiders I decided to take the trip up and visit Mary and Trevor. The journey there and back was pretty s**t due to a motorway closure and awful weather however it was not in vain. They have devoted a whole room to spiders and there are some stunning examples. Interestingly Mary has a hands off approach and leaves the close contact stuff to Trevor. I've read so much about Pokies, Baboons Psalmos and a variety of species that I've been led to believe will chase me back home and eat my wife and children. The day killed off all those thoughts as they carefully opened up tubs to inspect the inhabitants. Most of the Pokies just sat there totally not bothered by us, although the metallica decided it preferred to be out of view, the P. cambridgei sat there too although we didn't exactly invite it out for a trek down the pub. And the baboons well, open the lid and down the hole they ran! At one point they decided to try a mating between 2 baboons (sorry my head exploded with the variety of species, I should have taken notes). So down on the floor Trevor opened the female's tub, followed by the male and persuaded the male into the female's enclosure. The male decided he wanted to explore the burrow and Trevor again persuaded him (with deftly use of tweezers) to come up again and search out the female. Neither spider made any gesture towards mating or showed any inclination that the other was there. All this right in front of me and neither baboon looked as frightening as I imagined. No threats, no fast desire to escape or approach my lap! The mating of the klugi was similar, no tapping and no desire to approach each other, however I decided to leave my klugi so that Mary & Trevor could try again.
    I was fascinated by the variety they showed me, from the horned baboons and king baboon to the C. cyaneopubescens and A. avic, from A. franki to the goliath and C. marshalli to the N vulpinus. Far more than I can remember and way beyond what I've researched. But it wasn't just the spiders that entertained my eyes as I noticed tubs clearly marked with names I've come across in the forums, where the owners have also provided their spiders for breeding and an extended holiday, Ray Gabriel, Wesley Flower, Toran, I think even Mark Pennell.
    Both Mary and Trevor offered great hospitality and patience and I can't thank them enough for such a great day, a great insight and a fantastic opportunity to put most of my fears and prejudices to bed. They also made sure I didn't travel home without a couple of companions. Thanks to both of you and If anyone else gets the invite to go up and visit grab it with both hands, you'll not be disappointed.
    Last edited by Colin D Wilson; 23-03-08, 10:14 AM.
    My Collection - Summer 2011




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    Sound like you had as good a day as I had when i visited with Toran.

    There certainly is a lot to absorb in the spider room, although my attention kept being drawn back to a perticular pederseni on the pokie rack, had to be the best looking example i'd seen in a long time.

    you say you didn't travel home alone.... well, Peter....details man details!!!
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Colin D Wilson View Post
      ...you say you didn't travel home alone.... well, Peter....details man details!!!

      Well we all know how well Mary & Trevor did with breeding P. cambridgei and I half expected one would be offered to me at a price you could'nt refuse. Trouble was the mrs and I were extremely concerned at these speedy things - just type fast tarantula into YouTube and you'll understand our worries. "Promise you won't come back with one of those" rang in my head. It was the killing of the worries that made my decision to accept her offer of a freebie and the fact she told me I can't refuse, in the way that your mum used to do when you told her you didn't want cheese sandwiches for school lunch today
      I was also fortunate to come back with a P. reduncus, not one from her 12 reduncus of Christmas (complete with the reindeer names) but from a seperate batch, which I considered parting with one of her treasures and was most grateful for (although I'm probably crap at showing so). So, within the last week I've acquired P. reduncus, P. cambridgei and P. irminia (seperately from Craig Hill) and if that's not enough I've also grabbed myself some Pokies. What a good job M & T did of dispelling my fears.
      If I remember rightly there was also a breeding Pokie from Toran at Mary's house?
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      • #4
        Tee hee Peter, you should have taken notes.

        The sac with Toran is H mac, and a fair few nymphs we have there too.
        I have never bred with Mark Pennel lol.
        I am hoping that pederseni is going to drop soon *sigh*

        Glad you enjoyed your visit, James is coming tomorrow to see them, and 3 new lots of babies to see too.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by mary walters View Post
          ...I have never bred with Mark Pennel lol.
          Sorry, I guessed this was wrong, was it Ray Hale?
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Peter Lacey View Post
            Sorry, I guessed this was wrong, was it Ray Hale?
            No darlin, never bred with Ray either, Simon yes, waiting on a fair few to drop from his males
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            • #7
              never too old for a spot of breeding Mary eh?.

              I never seem to get the time these days too busy with the BTS. Still its all worth it.
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              • #8
                No Ray I am getting on a bit lol, and am thinning collection out to do more breeding, but africans, ahem.

                Pulled 3 fertile sacs today, so will hopefully be some CHEAP slings on my table....
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                • #9
                  Glad to here you had a good time at Marys , its always enjoyable going to see her, trev and all the spids

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Kevin Hasley View Post
                    Glad to here you had a good time at Marys , its always enjoyable going to see her, trev and all the spids
                    Yes Kev, when are you coming over with Bex again?????
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                    • #11
                      Well it just goes to show how boggled my brain was, I do remember you mentioning Ray as he had lived closer to you before he moved down to Eastbourne - please tell me at least that's right coz if not I'm off to Wilko's for a new memory stick
                      I'm sure James will have had a great day too, and he'll repeat the sentiment, its not just the spiders that are the attraction but the very accommodating hosts.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Peter Lacey View Post
                        Well it just goes to show how boggled my brain was, I do remember you mentioning Ray as he had lived closer to you before he moved down to Eastbourne - please tell me at least that's right coz if not I'm off to Wilko's for a new memory stick
                        I'm sure James will have had a great day too, and he'll repeat the sentiment, its not just the spiders that are the attraction but the very accommodating hosts.
                        Yes Ray, Angela and Trev and I all lived in the black country, before we became exiles lol.

                        James had a great day I think, fiddling about with 400 odd nymphs lol. We taught him the ancient art of 'nymph flicking' lol
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                        • #13
                          i'm wondering if i should use this aptly titled thread or create another??
                          ah what the heck, let the mods decide

                          i also had a fantastic day at Mary's...not just the spiders but Mary and Trev were great hosts and fed me to the brim and kept me busy with nymphs and mating attempts, etc.
                          a great day, can't wait to bring my mum around! if she was here this time, she could've helped me bring home the lot you gave me, Mary

                          Colin, before you ask lol:
                          i was gifted with a reduncus sling, a false widow (sorry Mary, i forget the scientific name though you kept saying it lol), a load of B dubia roach nymphs, 3 hissing cockroaches and a new GBB (probably male again, but we'll deal with that when he matures) and a load of enclosures!

                          some of my highlights were seeing the famous Noel the parahybana and Stacey the metallica, as well as the three gorgeous vulpinus, the balfouri, the lovely Michelle (mother to my little cambs, if i didn't get her mixed up) and the mother of my striata (forget her name)...as well as that amazingly fierce but beautiful irminia.

                          oh and Mary, i watched that Desert Tarantulas video when i got home, was too short but had great footage of A chalcodes!

                          thanks again Mary...i had a great day!
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by James Box View Post
                            i'm wondering if i should use this aptly titled thread or create another??
                            ah what the heck, let the mods decide

                            i also had a fantastic day at Mary's...not just the spiders but Mary and Trev were great hosts and fed me to the brim and kept me busy with nymphs and mating attempts, etc.
                            a great day, can't wait to bring my mum around! if she was here this time, she could've helped me bring home the lot you gave me, Mary

                            Colin, before you ask lol:
                            i was gifted with a reduncus sling, a false widow (sorry Mary, i forget the scientific name though you kept saying it lol), a load of B dubia roach nymphs, 3 hissing cockroaches and a new GBB (probably male again, but we'll deal with that when he matures) and a load of enclosures!

                            some of my highlights were seeing the famous Noel the parahybana and Stacey the metallica, as well as the three gorgeous vulpinus, the balfouri, the lovely Michelle (mother to my little cambs, if i didn't get her mixed up) and the mother of my striata (forget her name)...as well as that amazingly fierce but beautiful irminia.

                            oh and Mary, i watched that Desert Tarantulas video when i got home, was too short but had great footage of A chalcodes!

                            thanks again Mary...i had a great day!
                            James it was a day spent in wonderful spidey company, glad you enjoyed it so much, I know we were talking about it on the way home from dropping you at station and we certainly enjoyed it.
                            It is a Steatoda bipunctata love.
                            Yes you met Michelle, mother of all the cambs I have ever bred, thus far, she is gonna rest now as her daughter, Whoppa is mated up now.
                            Beauty, the mother of your striata is one of Rays lovely girls here for hols lol.
                            Oh Irma is a fierce girl, I think she would bite no question about it.
                            Yes that vid is old, good though, time Andrew made a new one !!!!!!
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                            • #15
                              James....If Peter doesn't mind your addition to his thread then it's fine by me

                              Colin

                              p.s. if Shane finds out about your hissers.....watch out for a midnight raid from a random child
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