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  • Citharischius crawshayi Mating Thread

    Well over the past 4 days I have been mating my big female. She molted 2 months ago, but before her molt she was also mated, gained a lot of weight, but shed before producing me a sac. So there possibly may be eggs still in there huh.. I mated her on the 4th of this month and about 4 or 5 times after. I've witnessed the male make 3 sperm webs. I introduced him immediately after seeing the remains of them, and each time was a success. I clearly was his bulb pentrate each time and what looked like a white deposite as well.

    One month ago, the temps were kept around 70 deg's F, day and night. Low humidity then as well. Four-five weeks ago I bumped everything up, temp (heat lamp during the day), humidity (soaked the 'strate 3 times a day). Temp was anywhere between 85-90 during the day and 68-75 at night. The mating season in Kenya is during the second rainy season (Nov-Dec) so as of right now I am replicating everything and trying to mimic her natural habitat.

    Since yesterday, the male refuses to mate. He does his shaky dance down her burrow until about half way point, where he hits a THICK silk door. Yesterday morning I woke up to her webbing immensely. She blocked her burrow with nothing but the thinkest silk I have ever seen. Almost light yellow silk. She has been fed only three adult dubias and has literally doubled in size. She didnt eat much during the cool down so she was fairly small when starting the matings. But she is HUGE. The past couple of days all I have seen her do is web the bottom of her burrow, the walls, the bottom some more, scrape at the bottom of her chamber with her fangs, gather that up, stick it into the walls, smash it further in with her fangs. She is cleaning house like there is NO tomorrow!! She gets alll the way upside down, hangs from the ceiling of her chamber, silks the top, tears some down, packs it into the ground, and vice versa. All the time doing nothing but web, web, and web somemore!

    Could she really be gravid and ready to lay already?

    Just wanted to share this with everyone and hope for better success this time!

    Now, some pics!

    MM Male
    *Image removed due to breach of BTS rules and Regs concerning handling...Colin*

    BIG female

    Video of first encounter (there was an insersion right before she freaked out in the end)

    MM came back for more and ended up not happy at all!


    2nd attempt:
    MM ripping through the silk



    I tried timing the inserions, while holding a flashlight, and a ruler, but wasnt quick enough!!


    Now this is from right now. Shes silking the celing (she has to raise her abdomen a good 7" to get to it)

    Now shes haging upside down in the same spot packing it in with her fangs......


    Mr. Tansley, if you're reading this and if you have experienced this same behavior, I'd love your input.

    Thanks guys!
    Last edited by Colin D Wilson; 11-12-08, 01:36 PM.

  • #2
    Austin, my mated crawshayi has done exactly the same in her container, I can't see in at all now, fingers crossed for us both eh mate.
    spider woman at Wilkinsons

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    • #3
      hoping to one day join the club of crawshayi breeders, so i'll watch this with interest and post when i can...at present i have three AF's, an unsexed juvenile and two slings...
      wonderful spiders (defo one of my favourites), and we need more of them!
      good luck Mary and Austin!
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      • #4
        Hi Austin,

        it looks promising so fingers crossed.
        Do you normally keep the burrow area covered to prevent light disturbing the female?
        Guy...
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Guy Tansley View Post
          Hi Austin,

          it looks promising so fingers crossed.
          Do you normally keep the burrow area covered to prevent light disturbing the female?

          Thanks everyone! Yes, with a black shirt.

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          • #6
            Thanks James.


            Guy, mine is in a darkened room.
            spider woman at Wilkinsons

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            • #7
              Well they just mated tonight! It was quit a sight! Here are some pictures for you all
              Here he is heading down her burrow

              Gets her out



              She tried tagging him, threw him back while jumping about 8" forward. She quickly turned around and took off to her burrow, I tried to get the best shot before she jetted down...

              You can tell shes gained a lot of weight..
              Before mating's took place

              Now here is where she left the male, haha

              Now keep in mind, she was mated several times with one of my past males before she molted. So she could have been carrying eggs the whole time and could be why shes gained so much weight... I'll just have to wait!

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              • #8
                If she moulted after mating Austin there's a good chance she lost eggs and sperm.

                Stuart's male was with mine for 4 days, then I saw nothing of him after, not even a dis carded leg. She changed shape quite dramatically and took to her burrow, she is not eating either.
                spider woman at Wilkinsons

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                • #9
                  Hmm, I've heard from several sources that even if females molt, the eggs are not lost. Only the sperm deposits are. There have been females that have never met a male in their life too, and they have laid dud sacs.

                  I believe that if the environment inside the tank for whatever species you own is ideal and somewhat mimics their natural habitat, that can stimulate egg growth. I've had several species that have never met males, some even CB by myself, and they lay sacs for me. Although they are duds, eggs are still produced...

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                  • #10
                    The Nhandu vulpinus I had laid phantom sacs every year, all 3 of them
                    spider woman at Wilkinsons

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                    • #11
                      Got back from work today and knowticed she had made a LARGE chamber double the size of her. It is about 8" high and about 12" long. It is HUGE. What an amazing sight as well. This is a new addition to her burrow, so maybe she will be constructing a sac fairly quicker than I imagined.

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                      • #12
                        Well, fingers crossed for you mate.
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                        • #13
                          Nice one Austin, I can't see what mine has done at all now, just crossing fingers.
                          spider woman at Wilkinsons

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                          • #14
                            Well good times gotta end sometime...
                            Here he is last night "trying" to ease her out of her burrow

                            Here he is seconds after


                            Fingers crossed!

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                            • #15
                              We bit the bullet last night and looked to see what had happened, from the look of it she had one and ate it, oh well
                              spider woman at Wilkinsons

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