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    I got this spider from a guy I work with.... he thought it was a red rump but once I got it home and looked closely I realized it wasn't... Can anyone give a positive ID Please???

    Thanks in advance
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  • #2
    Could it be Paraphysa scrofa????
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    • #3
      Originally posted by mary walters View Post
      Could it be Paraphysa scrofa????
      Well I have since been told it is a Grammostola actaeon (Brazilian Redrump) and it does look like one of these if you compare pictures??
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      • #4
        Yes sounds like it, grammy of some sort
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        • #5
          i agree with Mary that it looks Grammie-ish...with that mirror patch especially. but getting it nailed down to a species will take someone more knowledgeable about that genius then i
          think i saw a Grammie of some sort being sold as a red rump of some sort...so might be why. there are several "red rumped spiders", going by common names anyway, as you know...
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          • #6
            Thats the thing with 'common names' ! it confuses genus's so much more grrr lol and alot of the fun in this hobby is watching them grow and seeing what they turn into in adulthood if we are not sure
            My suggestion would be sending off moults to certain people on this forum when it reaches juv,S/A ...adult ? then they could possibly key it out so to speak

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            • #7
              It's a juvenil Grammostola iheringi or actaeon for me...

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              • #8
                I don't keep grammies personally, but P. scrofa is a lil wee grammy type thing, thats what it looks like to me.
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                • #9
                  Thanks for all the input everyone!
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                  • #10
                    It seems like a Grammostola iheringi... that urticant hair patch form is very caracteristic.

                    Greetings, and don't use common names
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                    • #11
                      I don't use common names, have to look them up in book.....

                      Isn't iheringi now the old auriostriata?? thats what I am led to believe, and the mirror patch is common to all Grammastola sp.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Dario Quiza View Post
                        It seems like a Grammostola iheringi... that urticant hair patch form is very caracteristic.

                        Greetings, and don't use common names
                        Thank you Dario... you are right..... looks like G_iheringi; I see iheringi and actaeon are quite similar? Guess it's very difficult to know for sure!
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                        • #13
                          I don't use common names, have to look them up in book.....

                          Isn't iheringi now the old auriostriata?? thats what I am led to believe, and the mirror patch is common to all Grammastola sp.
                          I didn't say for you, I said for everyone, common names only take to confuse

                          And no, the species you is G. aureostriata considered a junior synonim of G. pulchripes. G. iheringi is a different species yet, well, that's what i know until now; if there have been changes recently, i don't know about them yet. The mirror patch is common to the genus, but that specific form is related to G. iheringi... i think XDDD

                          I see iheringi and actaeon are quite similar? Guess it's very difficult to know for sure!
                          Yes, i usually had that confusion, and i've seen pix of a supposed G. iheringi more similar to G. mollicoma... I know there are some variants of G. iheringi... Someone specialized in Grammostola...?

                          Greetings.
                          I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
                          Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.
                          I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near Tannhäuser's gate.
                          All those moments will be lost in time,
                          like tears in the rain...

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                          • #14
                            I agree, I don't like common names at all, and I told you I don't do grammies lol.
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                            • #15
                              hmmm i've seen iheringi in the flesh at least, if not acteon (to my knowledge)...and i think there is quite alot of difference! acteon for one thing...or the real one, i'm lead to believe, does NOT have a red abdomen...but that may need confirmation, as i am having to draw on comments in a conversation with young Colin D Wilson. maybe he'll chip in? to say he is clued up on Grammies would be an understatement.

                              iheringi is alot fuzzier and bluer as an adult (except for the red fuzzy abdomen of course). the spider that jumped to my mind when i saw that picture was iheringi as others have said...

                              common names...Mary, i'm getting like that too, usually i shrug and shake my head if someone comes at me with one...if i'm asked to give an "English" name for a spider, i cringe...probably visibly lol
                              Last edited by James Box; 01-06-09, 04:35 PM.
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