Hi all,
I have been a forum member for a while but just lurking. I am from Johannesburg South Africa and have been involved with tarantulas for about 9 months. I have learnt a huge deal from some really good people over this side of the planet and I am hoping to learn a lot more here.
I currently have the below list but I am now focusing more on arboreal species, specifically Poecilotheria.
Brachypelma albopilosum
Brachypelma boehmei
Brachypelma smithi
Brachypelma vagans
Lasiodora klugi
Lasiodora parahybana
Acanthoscurria geniculata
Grammostola rosea
Tapinauchenius cupreus
Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens
Poecilotheria ornata
Poecilotheria fasciata
Poecilotheria formosa
Poecilotheria regalis
Poecilotheria miranda
Stromatopelma calceatum
Ephebopus cyanognathus
Holothele incei - Communal
Lampropelma violaceopes
Psalmopoeus Cambridgei
Psalmopoeus irminia
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Originally posted by Kate Arbon View PostCould be a hybrid? I imagine with species that look so similar an inexperienced breeder might easily cross-breed them.Last edited by Arron Hooks; 21-12-12, 04:16 PM.
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Could be a hybrid? I imagine with species that look so similar an inexperienced breeder might easily cross-breed them.
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From the picture I linked it is not completely black with the fringe or the triangle, its kind of 50/50 black/orange, although the triangle seems more prominent.
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The carapace of B. smithi should be completely black with orange/red fringe whereas B. annitha should only have a black triangle on predominantly orange/red carapace with some stridulating lines all pointing towards the centre.
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Fair enough. Now to find out if I have a Smithi with a light carapace or an Annitha.
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That paper is from 2000, whereas the information above is from Platnik's list and clearly states more up to date, peer reviewed papers
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Originally posted by Peter Lacey View Postmf annitha Tesmoingt, Cleton & Verdez, 1997....................Mexico [urn:lsid:amnh.org:spidersp:001853]
B. a. Tesmoingt, Cleton & Verdez, 1997a: 9, pl. 1-6 (Dmf; N.B.: specific name considered a noun in apposition rather than a patronym).
B. a. Tesmoingt, Cleton & Verdez, 1997b: 2, pl. 7-8, 11 (m).
B. a. Peters, 2000a: 64, f. 205-207 (mf).
B. a. Peters, 2003: 108, f. 428, 435-436 (mf).
That's good enough for me!
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mf annitha Tesmoingt, Cleton & Verdez, 1997....................Mexico [urn:lsid:amnh.org:spidersp:001853]
B. a. Tesmoingt, Cleton & Verdez, 1997a: 9, pl. 1-6 (Dmf; N.B.: specific name considered a noun in apposition rather than a patronym).
B. a. Tesmoingt, Cleton & Verdez, 1997b: 2, pl. 7-8, 11 (m).
B. a. Peters, 2000a: 64, f. 205-207 (mf).
B. a. Peters, 2003: 108, f. 428, 435-436 (mf).
That's good enough for me!
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I meant Sub-Adult not South African . I am a bit more confident that this shop knew the sex, the one I went to just before looked at 8 wild caught rose hairs he had and said 'yep, they all look female'. I shall wait until the molt before I am 100% sure.
More concerned on the Smithi/Annitha thing though, but I doubt I will ever get to know. Official line is Annitha is a separate species. Other side are saying the guy who described it is a joke and many consider Annitha to be a colour morph of Smithi. Most of the threads I read date back to 2006 so I wondered if there was any recent development.
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Who is the breeder from S.A?? Usually one sends the molt with as proof of sex, but with no molt thats always an indication the sex is unknown most of the time chap! I've been suckered a few times with one or 2 guys here and if u ever need to buy please let me know as I can point u in the right direction with some honest guys😊
Ray-Nature Conservator
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Anyone familiar with the differences between B. Smithi and B. Annitha? Bought her from a pet shop for £60 as a SA female B. Smithi, guy told me they sexed her from the moult. From what I can gather online the distinction between the two is an absolute mess! If I ever breed her it would be nice to know! Picture taken with my phone, don't have access to a proper camera sadly.
Edit: it is the carapace that is throwing me off, I expected to see more black but doing some more reading I honestly don't know any more. It is a can of worms I wish I never opened.Last edited by Arron Hooks; 20-12-12, 01:32 AM.
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Hi all. Not that im an expert at tarantulas, but relatively new for at least the last year building my collection and learning from all the tarantula experts out there 😊i work for South African national parks working with all African animal and plant species and love working with my T's every night i get home. I have avics and pokies and pokies being my favorite one o them all. I can say this ,that avics are much much more docile in terms of its temperament in comparison to any other pokie!! My metallica's are aggressive and actually tag that brush all the time when i work inside the enclosure,but with the T's in general i dnt handle any by hand because all T's are so sensitive and know when they on another living animal hence they want off. Working with avics no problem I've never been shown aggressive behavior from them.
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Originally posted by Peter Roach View PostTo advise anyone that any Avicularia and Poecilotheria are similar in temperament is putting it plainly is just plain stupidity and shows a total lack of knowledge of either genus. Likewise the habitat is different for both species.
To elaborate Rob, avics are generally known for being relatively docile. Pokies... not so much Skittish and fast and can be defensive, though I've heard in pokie terms metallicas are one of the calmer species.
Also expect to drop a LOT more money on a P. met than on an avic.
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