P. metallica;now looking male...

[Austin S. Spears]

I received a female metallica a couple months ago. It was 1" then and it was a guarenteed female from molt. Well she molted over the holidays and all female organs, seemed to be absent... here a ventral shot, any ideas? I'm not sticking with male though, it is still only 2". It is best to wait until it gets a little bigger. I'd just like everyones input on it. Thanks!

[Steevens DROGUET]

It was 1" then and it was a guarenteed female from molt.

It's impossible to garantee the sex on this specie at this size.

[Austin S. Spears]

It's impossible to garantee the sex on this specie at this size.

Thats what I like to hear!!

[Phil Rea]

Much as I don't agree with ventral sexing, I understand the principle, and that looks very much like a male to me.

Get it confirmed from an exuvia would be my advice. That's the only 100% way to be sure

[Stephen Bryceland]

Male 100%

[Austin S. Spears]

Well some good news! The person I got "it" from said whenever it getsl larger, and I can be able to sex the molt male, I will get a large female, for no charge. Well, that made my day!!

[Austin S. Spears]

Just wanted to add these. Any new thoughts?

[Simon Goldsborough]

Male 100%

steve your getting good at this ventral sexing mate and i 100% agree with you on this one its 100% male , 90% of spiders can be sexed as slings through to sub adults ventrally , i never sex by moults any more its quicker and easyier to sex ventrally

[Phil Rea]

steve your getting good at this ventral sexing mate and i 100% agree with you on this one its 100% male , 90% of spiders can be sexed as slings through to sub adults ventrally , i never sex by moults any more its quicker and easyier to sex ventrally

90% of spiders can be reliably and accurately sexed ventrally? That's a bold and sweeping statement Simon.

Are we talking all spiders (including trues), all theraphosids, all mygalomorphae, all pokies, avics, all new world, all old world or what?

[Simon Goldsborough]

90% of spiders can be reliably and accurately sexed ventrally? That's a bold and sweeping statement Simon.

Are we talking all spiders (including trues), all theraphosids, all mygalomorphae, all pokies, avics, all new world, all old world or what?

i know its a bold statement if i can sex them ventrally so can mal pots so can paul towler why cant other people , this is from the spiders i have owen including x imannis , t blondi , t apophysis , all the pokies , every avic's i have owen and grown on , e oliveace , c andersoni , h gigas , l paraha , p cambridgei , p irminia , p reduncs , all brachys we have had , all the speices i have ownd in the past have all been sexed as slings , fishing spiders are true spiders i have had 2 slings and they was sexed ventrally as both females both matured in to females

[Phil Rea]

You've got better eyesight than me then Simon. I must invest in some better glasses