cyriopagopus "blue"

[alan gimson]

Hi
I too have one and again this is dark brown all over 3inch L/S no idea of the sex.Still dark brown when the light shines on it, No sign of blue could thid be male? Quite aggressive too are these aggressive.
Al

[Lee_Ross]

couldn't honestly say mate ... i've never owned a small one ... i got mines as an adult female ( purple + blue ), males stay brown until the final adult maturing moult when they turn khaki green.

the only way you could tell is to look for spermathecae on it's fresh moult.

i noticed that there was a definate metallic blue sheen underneath my males hair and wondered if he would moult out as female but he didn't ... what happened was he moulted out grew almost 2" and turned green, the "boxing gloves" are really apparent when they moult, tibial hooks are small but noticeable.

the most notable thing though is the fact that when they turn GREEN ... they turn REALLY GREEN !.

the only thing i would comment on is that my male is much faster and has more of a tendancy to flee, whereas the female although still fast will just hold her ground and threat pose before you can blink !.

my advice... sex the moult
*sure you'll find a how to on here somewhere ... it's actually pretty easy to do *

hope that helps mate!.

[michaelmckinney]

Yes I agree Alan, the best way to determine gender is sexing of the moulted skin. Basically it's a matter of getting the skin, while it's damp so it can be manuvered, if it's dried a bit spray some luke warm water on to it, but don't drench it.

The easiest way for me to explain it is; Inside the abdomen of the moult there is a little slit (genital opening) and what your looking for is the spermathecae, which is like a little pocket, which can be fused (shaped a bit like a rainbow), or paired (like the M in the McDonalds sign a bit), If it's there you have a female. If there is nothin inside the abdomen at the slit, you have a male.

Hope this helps m8,

Michael.

[Lee_Ross]

Theres A Cracking Guide To Sexing that Was Posted by RPAR (dunno your real name sorry) Here

http://arachnophiles.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=5442

thats where i learned how it was done

*sorry for external linking, i haven't seen one on this forum yet but i'm sure it exists if you look for it *

[michaelmckinney]

At last I can post pics so here is the pics of my Cyriopagopus blue just after a moult.

Michael.

[Phil Rea]

Theres A Cracking Guide To Sexing that Was Posted by RPAR (dunno your real name sorry)

That would be Craig, and it is an excellent guide

There was also a great article by Chris Sainsbury in the BTS Journal, Vol. 22 No. 1, which can be downloaded as a PDF file from this very site if you're a BTS member, so that's another great reason for joining the BTS if haven't already

[Colin D Wilson]

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And if you (or others haven't) then to put it into prospective.....
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All for £15.50 (UK)

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[Nicola Dolby]

Mark I remember from a journal article that the C. schioedtei (I think I got that right) have different couloured undersides according to gender. Is this the same with the sp. blue and so a guide?

[Lee_Ross]

i think that they start out the same as slings and juvies ...

however they start to turn blue if they are female as they near adult

the males stay the brown way until the final adult moult when they turn green,

this is a guarantee whether you have a male of female ... while they are young however the only way to be sure as far as i know would be to examine the exuvium.

they are quite dark underneath with a blue/green sheen on the legs *both sexes*

(well thats as far as i seen with mines, i didn't notice any difference)

[Mark Pennell]

Mark I remember from a journal article that the C. schioedtei (I think I got that right) have different couloured undersides according to gender. Is this the same with the sp. blue and so a guide?

Yes that's quite correct! male on the top of this image female on the bottom.

Regards
Mark

[Colin D Wilson]

I take it they're taken in situ Mark??

[Mark Pennell]

I take it they're taken in situ Mark??

Yes correct.... well spotted!

[Colin D Wilson]

Very good images mate, captured the attitude well

[Lee_Ross]

just outta curiosity ...

do the juvie females look exactly like males before they start to turn blue yeah ??

*i got my mrs as an adult so i was unsure on that point !, i know what sub / juvie males look like i got him before adult moult*

....

also

i've been informed on numerous occassions that this is not a cyriopagopus but is infact L. violaceopes.

so...

whats the deal with that ?, has that been 100% confirmed yet ... or are we still classing this as C. sp "blue"

[Lee_Ross]

At last I can post pics so here is the pics of my Cyriopagopus blue just after a moult.

Michael.

Hey dude i just noticed these ...

can you take a couple of good pics of your cyrio now ?? just to let me see..

from those pics ( because the legs look so damn blue )

I'd say you have yourself a girlie there ...

lemme see a couple of recent and i'll see what i can tell ya !!